#Eulora log for Sunday, 2016-04-17

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Birdmannow just build smalls, overnight will be to rank my gathering00:11
Birdmanand i get the enumerations which will eventually gain some value00:12
mircea_popescua00:20
Birdmandanielpbarron you around?00:46
danielpbarronno00:47
Birdmanill buy those low q si whenever you are00:47
danielpbarronk00:48
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Birdmanmircea_popescu any q 200+ threads for sale?02:45
danielpbarronI have threads like that02:47
Birdmanill buy em02:48
Birdmaneta on being in town?02:48
danielpbarron1 min02:48
Birdmantrade when ready w/ threads + si02:50
danielpbarronwell how much are you looking to spend on threads02:50
Birdmancould use 2k of em02:50
danielpbarronyeah but what kind of markup02:51
danielpbarroncause i have use for them02:51
danielpbarronso how badly do you need them02:51
danielpbarronif you bring me grass i'll thread it for ya02:51
Birdmanwhat 3 grass for 1 thread02:51
Birdman?02:51
Birdmancause i've lots of grass02:51
danielpbarronhas to be high quality grass if you want high quality threads02:51
Birdmanmostly low q02:52
Birdmanso 30% on the threads?02:52
Birdmangonna shred some 24k bits tonight02:54
danielpbarroni have 1050 q234 threads; that plus si for 880k?02:57
Birdmanmeh gonna see what else is around before i paying premiums and such, but ill take the si per negotiated price02:59
danielpbarronBirdman,02:59
danielpbarron1000*172*0.87*1.5 = 22446002:59
Birdmanthanks03:00
danielpbarronty03:00
danielpbarronheh i was gonna get change outa my bank but figured i'd try accept first incase you just wanted to hurry up03:00
Birdmanyep lol03:02
Birdmanso the bot seems to start multiple crafts03:02
danielpbarronyou have to give it a time03:02
Birdmanalso q159 bundle q89 bps output... 8903:03
danielpbarronyou mean 87?03:03
Birdmanah q87 bps, q89 output03:03
Birdmanso i guess im seeing the value in the loot then and the extra q is from my skill maybe?03:04
Birdmanmircea_popescu server down03:05
alikimyeah03:25
mircea_popescutsk.03:54
diana_comanserver back up04:45
Birdmanit wasnt me that broke it was it?05:10
Birdmando i need to add time values for the bot? its acting as if the craft is much shorter than it is05:12
Birdmanpretty sure its about to crash05:19
diana_comanBirdman, it was05:57
Birdmani figured as much05:58
diana_comanwell, if you can't refrain from messing up with the craft, then it'll have to wait until I add something05:58
diana_comanand yes, of course you have to add values for the bot, jeez06:00
Birdmanalllright06:01
diana_comanBirdman, did it give you the message that you moved something?06:03
diana_coman"You were unsuccessful since you moved something"?06:03
Birdmanyeah06:03
diana_comangood06:03
alikimserver down again?06:04
diana_comanyes alikim , it's same thing so I'm on it to fix06:11
alikimkk06:11
diana_comanback on06:26
diana_comanBirdman, try same thing again at least06:26
diana_comanif we are at it06:26
diana_comanaha, lol06:26
Birdmanhuh?06:27
diana_comannope, not yet fixed06:27
Birdmanmy bad06:30
diana_comanBirdman, log in and run the bot again without any time set06:38
diana_comanit should work now06:38
diana_comanwell, you'll still mess up your crafts, ofc06:39
diana_comanserver on, hopefully it stays on now06:39
mircea_popescuyay06:46
mircea_popescualikim btw, dunno how into it you are, but we've been wanting PC models for a long time now also...06:47
alikimI'm not into 3d modelling really06:50
mircea_popescuah kk06:52
alikimthis client could be ported to cryengine I think06:53
mircea_popescusure.06:54
alikimif you marry existing network code with a network stub provided with CE client06:54
mircea_popescuyou recall the convo re this, do you ?06:55
alikimnot really06:55
mircea_popescuhttp://logs.minigame.bz/2016-04-12.log.html#t22:02:4906:56
lobbesbotTitle: #Eulora log for Tuesday, 2016-04-12 (at logs.minigame.bz)06:56
mircea_popescuin short, the problem's not technological.06:57
alikimlast I checked CE forums a few years ago, there have been tons of people there offering CE design close to nothing. IN a couple of hours they can create island 10 times bigger than this one with forests waterfalls desets lakes w/e and it looks pretty06:58
alikimcan be more than couple hunder bucks06:58
alikim=can't06:58
alikimstudents do it for portfolio close to nothing06:58
alikimI think it only gets cheaper06:59
mircea_popescumeanwhile eulora's been here waiting.06:59
mircea_popescuwhich forums are these ?06:59
alikimlet me find06:59
alikimhttps://www.cryengine.com/community/viewforum.php?f=27807:06
lobbesbotTitle: CRYENGINE | Levels (at www.cryengine.com)07:06
alikimI'm pretty sure you can have a small island for free07:07
alikimmodels will most likely cost you couple bucks07:07
alikimhttps://www.cryengine.com/marketplace/category/30807:07
mircea_popescuin principle i have no problem with paying, but market rate not insanities.07:07
lobbesbotTitle: CRYENGINE | The complete solution for next generation game development by Crytek (at www.cryengine.com)07:07
mircea_popescudo you have an account there ?07:07
alikimno I think you register for free?07:08
mircea_popescuso do you follow this forum ? or how would you know ?07:08
alikimlast time I was interested many years ago when CE license for commercial use would cost millions $$07:08
alikimbut then they strted selling mothly subscriptions for 5 bucks07:09
alikimkinda big change07:09
alikimso now you can have commercial CE for like 60 bucks a year with shitload of free levels models textures and stuff07:09
alikimhttps://www.cryengine.com/get-cryengine07:10
lobbesbotTitle: CRYENGINE | Crytek (at www.cryengine.com)07:10
mircea_popescuheh mkay.07:10
mircea_popescuto simplify things : if you know reasonable artists, by all means, introduce them.07:10
alikimone of two best engines in the world, pretty as it gets07:10
mircea_popescuoutside of that... whatever.07:10
alikimyou can register on that forum and ask if someone is willing to design you a small island, I'm pretty sure people will do it for as low as couple hundred bucks, at least that's how it was a few years ago07:12
mircea_popescuthere's no substance to this "pretty sure" of yours.07:13
mircea_popescuif you wanna recommend something, sure. if you don't as much as have an account, the place does not exist as far as you're concerned.07:14
alikimoh boy07:15
mircea_popescuwell whadda ya want ?07:15
mircea_popescu"oh you should go to monaco, best parties" "where you staying in monaco ?" "oh, i've never been"07:16
mircea_popescuwhat is this!07:16
alikimas an owner of a game I guess you should be self encouraged enough to register on a forum, takes 1 min, and actually find out how much is a small island and a couple of models, instead of waiting for years for someone to reccomend you something07:25
mircea_popescumno. random company wants me to use its products, it'd better come and pitch.07:25
mircea_popescuthe odds of me registering on random webforum are ~0.07:25
mircea_popescuif it's in your wot i may consider it as such ; but outside of that it fails to interest.07:26
alikimwhen it comes to 3d engines this is the forum, not a forum, unless you want to use unreal engine. if you are too lazy to even register on the biggest 3d engine forum and actually find prices, how can you tell that 3d atrists are expensive?07:31
mircea_popescunot a matter of lazy. it's a matter of process. i exist to force the entire world to go through my chosen needle eye, not to register on fucking forums wtf.07:31
mircea_popescuseriously, the odds of me registering on one are nil. i actually hired someone to do pr on the tardstalk forum.07:32
alikimhow do you know that making 3d models and levels is expensive?07:32
alikimI'm showing you the biggest site in the world where modls are sold at 2-4 bucks for the best engine in the world07:33
mircea_popescui've been in business for decades by now. i know things.07:33
alikimwhere do you get your information?07:33
mircea_popescumno, you're showing me some shitty website.07:33
alikimcryengine is shit?07:33
mircea_popescu~the website~ is shitty.07:34
alikimin what aspect?07:34
mircea_popescuin the aspect where it's a free webforum nobody i know participates on.07:34
mircea_popescuif walmart makes a walmart-forum.com tomorrow you're going to think that by registering on that shitty website you're interacting with "the billion dollar company" ?07:34
Birdman<mircea_popescu>not a matter of lazy. it's a matter of process. i exist to force the entire world to go through my chosen needle eye << thats the dream right07:35
mircea_popescumno, that's teh life Birdman :D07:35
Birdmanmaybe for you!! lol07:35
alikimso when you say 3d art is expensive that means people you actually personally know or who have been recomended to you were expensive and low quality?07:36
alikimbecause you don't bother to actually go to the market?07:37
mircea_popescunot exactly, no. but yes there've been 2-3 derps came here trying to get a living wage out of not doing anything in particular under the title of "doing artwork".07:37
mircea_popescumeanwhile - "the market" in the sense you use it is always and everywhere a joke.07:37
mircea_popescuyou can probably get a coupla dozen sleeping pills delivered by that "market". it's always a toy.07:37
alikimyou mean I can't buy cheap good quality 3d?07:38
mircea_popescuit was a toy when it was calling itself "silk road" and imagined itself "the BIGGEST IN TEH WERLD!!!1!" while being unable to move a kilo of coke over xmas.07:38
mircea_popescuit is still always going to be a toy.07:38
mircea_popescui mean that if i can or i can't, it won't be through making a free account on whatever forum.07:38
alikimwell I definitely can07:39
mircea_popescugood for you ?07:39
alikimyou can't because you don't register on "shitty" forum07:39
mircea_popescuso what can you actually do, other than inviting me to make forum accounts.07:39
alikimI don't need 3d art but if I did yeah I easily could07:40
mircea_popescu[things would be so much easier if instead of dodging the "so you have an account ?" question you actually answered it huh!]07:40
alikimI don't have an acoount07:41
mircea_popescuthis is becoming quite mysterious!07:41
alikimyou can browse that forum w/o an account07:41
mircea_popescuheh mkay.07:42
alikimand see art for sale and price for it, so you can evaluate the quality of what's bein sold07:42
mircea_popescuseriously, one day you're bored / curious about weird things, go read into the web of trust, most serene republic, stuff like that.07:42
alikimthanks, reading this channel is enough ;)07:44
mircea_popescualternatively, if you feel like playing the broker, i'm willing to entertain it.07:44
mircea_popescuhaha, weirdest thing on the plate huh ?07:44
alikimfor most of the people it's really easy, you see something you like online, you register on the website, you buy it, you done problem solved and you keep going. but you seem to be willing to wait for years till the world will give it to you thru that special little needle hole of yours07:46
alikimok by me ;)07:47
alikimnot my game07:47
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mircea_popescualikim that's seriously not how it works. yes it's a fine way to buy a new garden gnome. it's not a way to run a business.08:13
mircea_popescusee http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/ for the long form of this discussion, i'm not gonna type it in.08:13
lobbesbotTitle: What the drug trade is, how the drug trade works and why Silk Road didn't work and didn't matter on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. (at trilema.com)08:13
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alikimnew storage window is out! http://i.imgur.com/QIaJcOM.jpg14:44
diana_comanheh, not bad alikim14:45
diana_comanwhy not list the price there too though?14:46
diana_comanas in: base value rather than price14:46
alikimthat I didn't check yet, it now comes directly from the message and it's 014:46
diana_comanyeah, it is 0 in message, but if you have q and the list of bv (which is available on the website if nothing else) you can calc that anyway14:47
alikimbuttons change depending on wether it's in or out14:47
diana_comananyway I like the design for sure14:47
alikimbutton Q adds qualities to the list, also was bugging me a lot14:47
alikimthat I don't see q14:48
diana_comanoh, I thought that was for taking out a certain quantity rather than quality14:48
diana_comanso how can you take out 3 items?14:48
diana_comanone by one only?14:48
alikimNUM button opens that small window where you can enter amount14:48
diana_comanah14:49
alikimONE takes one, ALL takes all14:49
alikimsame 3 buttons that you hav enow14:49
diana_comangot that; I don't know why NUM somehow made me think still of some batch stuff14:50
diana_comanpossibly because of the icon >>14:50
diana_comanmaybe > for "one" and >> for all/num I suppose14:50
diana_comanor that's how my brain sees those icons14:50
diana_comanftr I don't see any scenario in which I do *not* want to see the quality in that window, lol14:51
alikimwell, right now you can't see it, it's not coming with the list of items14:51
diana_comanI know, yes, but I WANT to see it14:51
diana_comanthat's what I am saying14:51
diana_comanin other words: the Q button is nice but I don't think I'll ever turn it off if I had it, lol14:52
diana_comananyways, looks good, well done14:52
alikimjust making my life easier ;)14:53
diana_comanheh, so are you going to play now?14:53
alikimI need to finish trading window tomorrow, change that inredibly annoying tooltip that has huge font and someone attached it to the tip of mouse pointer instead o right bottom corner, and then yeah I'll be writing a bot and play the game14:55
diana_comanwhat bot do you have in mind?14:55
alikimwell I'll take your minig bot as an example, just will add my logic to it14:56
diana_comancool, go for it14:56
diana_comanthat's pretty much the way I even want it used at best :)14:56
alikimI just need an example of movement code, I looked around but it seemed messy at low level, how the spped is calculated and stuff14:58
alikimcouldn't make much sense out of it at the first glance14:58
diana_comandid you read the description on the blog?14:59
diana_comanthe movement part is in MovementStrategy14:59
alikimI'll read the code ;)14:59
diana_comanbut in any case: there is no "speed" as such14:59
diana_comanit just turns the character to the direction you want to go in14:59
diana_comanstarts movement14:59
diana_comanand then it stops it basically15:00
diana_comanall of the bot (latest version at least) is essentially a state machine15:00
alikimhow do you define for how long to move?15:00
diana_comandoes something, then sleeps, then wakes up and does next thing15:00
diana_comanthis was a design decision to avoid problems with overlapping stuff15:00
diana_comanbasically there are only two time parameters15:01
diana_comanfirst is the duration of one "step" (so that's how long to move as such)15:01
alikimsystem sleeps or engine provides it's own?15:01
diana_comanthe other one is a timeout15:01
diana_comanengine provided15:01
diana_comanand no, it's not sleep15:01
diana_comanit's basically a timer15:02
diana_comanthat calls the bot after given milliseconds15:02
diana_comanthe timeout thing was added to avoid getting hung up when waiting for some messages15:02
diana_comanftr the first version of the bot was message-driven15:02
diana_comanso no waking up and stuff15:03
diana_comanjust register to the messages one wants, react to those15:03
diana_comanwhich in principle should be the fastest and best way, but...it didn't work well mainly because messages are not really guaranteed in any way and then apparently things were colliding15:03
diana_comanthe bot was basically too fast15:03
alikimmessages from the server are not guaranteed to come?15:04
diana_comanwell, they can have huge lag15:04
diana_comandepending on your connection basically15:04
alikimwhat happens if I try to mine too fast, server crashes?15:05
diana_comanno, you probably don't get anything done basically15:05
diana_comanftr crashing the server is not a problem - do crash it if you can15:05
diana_comanthat'll expose problems so I'll know about them and fix them15:06
alikimso now you don't wait for those messages?15:06
danielpbarronpreferably not at 1 am15:06
diana_comanheh danielpbarron agree on that15:06
alikimwhat's 1am? for me it's 1am now ;)15:07
diana_comanalikim, bot basically checks for those messages: if they are there it goes ahead and does what it wanted to do, otherwise waits another round15:07
danielpbarronin that case, yes do it at 1 am15:07
diana_comanit made it waaaay more stable and robust to network lag and the like15:07
diana_comanwanted to say that 1am is ill-defined15:07
alikimI tried your bot I think it breaks if it happens to mine at the same location twice15:08
diana_comanyeah, 4pm here, quite a good time15:08
diana_comanneah, that's not the bot15:08
diana_comanit doesn't break, no15:08
alikimI mean it stops working15:08
diana_comanhow do you tell ?15:08
diana_comanbecause no, it doesn't15:08
alikimmine was waiting there forever15:08
diana_comanneah, it has a timeout15:08
diana_comanjust that the default value is long15:09
alikimhow big is it?15:09
alikimit's been over 30 sec I think15:09
diana_comanoh, it's 5 min15:09
diana_comanor 615:09
diana_comanbut you can set it through command line when you start the bot15:09
diana_comanas in: /bot explore 1000 line 5 1 7 7500 850015:09
diana_comanthe last thing there, that 8500 is the timeout is ms15:09
diana_comanso 8.5seconds15:10
diana_comandefault value is 5-6 minutes for a good reason, namely that some tools really take that long15:10
diana_comanand it's exactly those tools one doesn't want to waste15:10
alikimI see15:11
alikimok cool thanks I'll have a look after I'm done with the rest of the windows15:11
diana_comannp15:11
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mircea_popescualikim> new storage window is out! http://i.imgur.com/QIaJcOM.jpg << here's an idea, can you color code the items by quality ? in the following sense : take the lowest (L) and the highest (H) quality of any type of item in storage, color all items of that type in RXB so that X = floor(q-L)/(H-L) * 25616:43
mircea_popescualternatively i suppose you could have double-criteria sort. or maybe just make the list group-by-name automatically.16:43
mircea_popescualikim> I just need an example of movement code, I looked around but it seemed messy at low level << it's quite messy.16:45
mircea_popescudiana_coman got 47 sb by any chance ?16:46
mircea_popescudanielpbarron> preferably not at 1 am << he has a point. if you're going to do stuff you suspect may crash the server, very good, we wanna see it, but ideally a) announce you're going to try and b) don't do it during gmt early morning as people have bots unattended and not really anyeffort put into autorestarters yet.16:47
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diana_comanmircea_popescu, solid branch? I have 47 yes; mainly low q though, some 45-ish17:21
diana_comandid another atc, still got only slag, cc, craft-table and bct17:21
diana_comanbundle q 246, atc q 130, output 191q17:21
diana_coman54 maculature17:24
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mircea_popescudiana_coman i'd take then if you don't mind. short some sb for this run18:44
diana_comansure, 1 min18:45
mircea_popescukk18:45
mircea_popescuoh today's auction day huh! eeexciting18:45
diana_comanready18:46
diana_comanmircea_popescu,18:46
mircea_popescu1500 ?18:47
diana_comanyeah, but no change18:47
mircea_popesculol. \18:47
diana_comanthis is all I have, lol18:47
diana_comanloool18:48
mircea_popescuhow about that.18:48
mircea_popescui give you my best feelings.18:48
diana_comanneah, give me whatever change you have18:48
mircea_popescubut this is like 1700bv!18:48
diana_comanonly sentiments18:48
mircea_popescuand i have almost no change18:48
diana_comanyeah, but I have LOADS and higher18:48
diana_comanthen just take the branches, lol18:48
mircea_popescunot even 40418:48
mircea_popescukk ty!18:48
diana_comanyw18:48
mircea_popescui have some sentiments too, but i expect you don't want q17218:49
diana_comanI would actually18:49
mircea_popescuo ?18:49
mircea_popesculemme look then18:49
diana_comanI basically used up all my sentiments, lol18:49
diana_comanwhat do you want for them anyway?18:49
mircea_popescuabout 800 q 172 they are.18:50
mircea_popescuuh i dunno, 150 ?18:50
diana_comanhm18:50
diana_comanI suppose I'll bid at the auction on the package of toils18:51
mircea_popescuwell what do you want to pay for 'em ?18:51
diana_coman130 sounds reasonable18:52
mircea_popescuaite, 13018:52
diana_comankk, let me unload again18:52
mircea_popescuill trade ya18:52
diana_comangreat18:52
mircea_popescu727 * 1.72 * 1.3 = 1625.572k18:52
mircea_popescuyou want q 152 also ?18:53
diana_comanno, these are fine18:53
diana_coman152 is getting low18:53
diana_comanthat's all my change still, lol18:53
mircea_popescuit's good lol18:54
diana_comanthanks18:54
mircea_popescucheerios.18:54
mircea_popescu1`000 Toils of Tinkering << heh that should take care of 100 stacks or so of feelings.18:55
mircea_popescudo we even have that many ?18:55
danielpb1rronyes18:55
mircea_popesculol18:55
diana_comanBirdman2, I have some doubtful tomes: 177q, 195q, 234q18:55
diana_comanabsolutely yes, lol18:55
mircea_popescuye buncha kulaks18:56
mircea_popescui have like a dozen.18:56
diana_comando you want any? lol18:56
mircea_popesculol!18:56
mircea_popescui finally managed to fill up my numina storage just now.18:56
diana_comanhappy you18:57
mircea_popescui suppose electron's sooner or later getting some huh.18:58
Birdman2well, toils are comin soon in the auction right?19:07
Birdman2and yes diana_coman19:07
Birdman2ill  buy all of em i guess19:07
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mircea_popescuBirdman bout an hour, little less.19:09
diana_comanBirdman, just to confirm: 177q goes for 200%, 195q and 234q go for 240%; there are 2 at 234q19:09
Birdmanoh do either of you have some clogs?19:10
diana_comanhm, might have, will check19:10
Birdmanand yeah 240% is fine, cheaper than whatever you charged me before iirc19:10
diana_comanmp charge 250% in his shop19:10
diana_comanbut since I found the canines I can chop down some of that - not easy to GET the canines, but at least they are not irreplaceable anymore for me at any rate19:11
diana_comanthough bps ARE still irreplaceable hence can't chop more19:11
Birdmanyeah, you've found all the resources now right?19:11
diana_comanwell, I have bundles from spirover for weird stuff that I haven't found yet19:12
diana_comanso...no19:12
diana_comanyou in town Birdman ?19:12
Birdmancan be in seconds19:12
mircea_popescu(and spirover didn't have ALL the bundles. and this is just old stuff from 2015 - will be adding more this year. etc)19:12
diana_comanor trade at the auction?19:12
diana_comanso there, never say "all" in eulora19:12
Birdmanyeah we can meet at the auction19:12
diana_comankk19:13
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mircea_popescuin other news : we'll be adding trade logging, and will publish a consolidated report of trade volumes starting with the s.mg may reports (ie, not this coming one).19:17
mircea_popescuplayers who specifically want to maintain trade privacy will have to drop-trade i guess.19:17
mircea_popescu(claim trade, where you lock things up and trade the key, is prolly safer but less convenient)19:17
diana_comanahahah, on-your-head-trade19:18
mircea_popesculol19:18
diana_comanprobably craft-table trade19:18
diana_comansafe AND convenient19:18
mircea_popescuwhile that lasts yeh.19:18
diana_comanthis craft-table is one of the most useful items in game really19:18
mircea_popescu:)19:18
diana_comanwell what, you can always put one down, no?19:18
diana_comanand pickup stuff from it19:18
diana_comanor not?19:18
mircea_popescuyeah, maybe players discover how to steal.19:18
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jurov(i mean dropped crafttable)19:26
diana_comanhe means private trade as in not-logged by s.mg jurov19:28
diana_coman+ you can go in the bushes/under water for added privacy I suppose19:28
jurovto the moon :D19:28
diana_comanor that :)19:28
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mircea_popescudiana_coman are you making fun and pickpoking at the eulora descriptions ?19:33
mircea_popescuaaand 20 minutes to auction!19:39
diana_comanoh, would never do that , not to such...descriptive descriptions :|19:39
mircea_popescugood!19:41
diana_comanmircea_popescu, why is that package 11 so special to start at 1mn although bv is 250k?19:42
mircea_popescurounded to the closest million eh!19:43
diana_comanugh19:43
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mircea_popescus.mg is too high and mighty and therefore haughty to even entertain an auction if it starts below numerous zeroes!19:44
diana_comanwell, apparently not too high and mighty to offer packages worth less than aforementioned zeroes :p19:44
mircea_popescuhow dare you impugn the very valuable vapors! first the describtions, now the substances ? all these virtual items are virtually priceless i'll have you know!19:45
diana_comanI...virtually know!19:45
mircea_popescusupstances* i mean.19:47
diana_comanI'm considering those tw bps and essentially I'm happy they are there: either I get them, make wheels and sell them and all is good or otherwise someone else gets them, I sell them pbs at hefty markup and ...all is good19:47
diana_comanmight be I drank some optimism potion today19:48
Birdmanseems even without bits my bot can only gather ~1500 times19:48
mircea_popescuwhat did the description say ?19:48
diana_comanBirdman, how is that?19:48
Birdmani fill up too damn quick19:49
diana_comanlol!19:49
diana_comankeep only remarks! amples even!19:49
Birdmanso im thinking ill just leave like 200 threads in my inventory overnight so i dont waste all the time, but it wont fill up19:49
Birdmanwell the thing is im so good at gathering its probably -ev to fill up overnight considering the chance to find ords19:50
mircea_popescusay wut ?19:50
Birdmani'd get more value out of barehanding and only keeping ords and enumerations than to fill up on resources in  a half hour19:50
mircea_popescuah. possibru.19:51
Birdmanwhile im sleeping i mean19:51
mircea_popescuyeh19:51
diana_comanhm, auction is on20:01
hanbothey my game crashed20:04
Birdmandiana_coman got those tomes?20:04
Birdmanand clogs20:05
diana_comangot tomes, let me check for clogs20:05
diana_comangot 2 pc I can sell Birdman , they are 40590q20:06
Birdmansweet20:06
Birdmantrade now?20:09
diana_comanlet me figure out what those pc were worth , lol20:09
Birdmando screens degrade on use or completion?20:16
diana_comanlike all tools, on use Birdman20:18
diana_coman71k per clogs20:19
Birdmanthen the bot is eating up uses every time it interupts?20:19
Birdmanill take both20:19
diana_comanyep, don't set it to interrupt20:19
Birdmanany insight on how to work the thing ? i've only ever used to to gather20:20
diana_comanit's written on its page really, but in any case an ex after the auction20:21
Birdmanthanks20:21
Birdmantrade now?20:21
diana_comannow20:23
Birdmanwhadda i owe ya20:23
diana_coman2×71000+88462×(1.77×2+1.95×2.4+2.34×2.4×2)20:25
diana_coman1.86mn20:26
Birdmanhave change for 2 or should i?20:26
diana_comanhm, I have 13 coins so only just about if that's fine20:26
Birdmanthanks20:27
diana_comanenjoy!20:27
Birdmanalso i think they degrade on completion20:28
Birdmanjust tested20:28
Birdmanbut the clogs, on use20:28
Birdmanso thats why i ran outta all my clogs!20:28
diana_comanBirdman, /bot craft 10 7500 M 8500 means: craft me 10 items, waiting 7.5 seconds for each, using maximum ingredients and having a timeout of 8.5seconds (meaning after 8.5 secs it WILL take everything out of the table/container and try to craft again20:42
mircea_popescusooo... total auction sale value, 82mn20:42
mircea_popescuincluding a single item going for 4mn!20:42
Birdmanok ok i thought the 7500 was how often it checked server for a message to see if the craft is done, and the 8500 the time out20:43
Birdmanbut thanks20:43
danielpbarroni never set options on the /bot craft past the first 220:43
mircea_popescume either.20:43
diana_comanessentially yes Birdman20:43
danielpbarronso like /bot craft 100 12100020:43
diana_comandefault is maximum so if you never undercraft, yes20:43
danielpbarronthe bot doesn't replace armor when it runs out? i thought that was a thing20:58
Birdmannah20:59
diana_comanno, it just stops; though it should be easy to change it for that, since it's nothing different from what it does with tools21:02
diana_comanI think I usually wear down the container before the armor or at least used to back when I made the bot21:02
danielpbarronwell i got lots of low quality chairs for head21:04
danielpbarron4 uses each21:04
diana_comanso just change the bot21:05
diana_comanas a data point: making 97q cc out of bct q9721:31
diana_comanas a data point: making 97q cc out of bct q36!21:32
diana_comanthe bp is from last atc click so 191q21:40
mircea_popescuwait so same q cc out of 36 and 97 ?22:00
mircea_popescuoh, just typo huh22:00
diana_comanyes, typo22:00
mircea_popescuin other news, im 20 clicks away from finishing the mega-monster adze craft run22:00
diana_comanooo22:00
mircea_popescuhopefully someone got some copper left after auction lol22:01
diana_comanbut now barehanded is supposedly even better or so I heard a bit earlier around here!22:01
mircea_popescuo ?22:01
diana_comanBirdman was saying he was so good that it's better to run the bot barehanded during the night22:02
mircea_popescua wlel for that.22:02
Birdmanwho looted 6 ngc 6 supplications from that nbc?22:10
Birdmanoh, it was me!22:10
Birdmananyone have high q apron lints for sale?22:13
mircea_popescuhaha wd.22:14
diana_comanhm, might have, lemme check22:14
diana_comanbtw, what q are those ngc cons and what do you want for one of them Birdman ?22:15
Birdmannot for sale22:15
mircea_popescugumbo i imagine ?22:15
Birdmanbut q16622:15
Birdmanyes22:15
diana_comanmk22:15
mircea_popescuBirdman i got some q 17222:16
mircea_popescuwhich apprently is very frequently my output q huh22:16
Birdmanthat'll do22:16
mircea_popescuhow many ?22:16
diana_comanyeah, my max are 162 it seems22:16
Birdman6k22:17
mircea_popescu130 suit you ?22:17
Birdmanwhat q130?22:18
mircea_popescuno, 130%22:18
Birdmanah, yeah22:19
mircea_popescuaite, im in town22:19
mircea_popescu60 * 1.3 * 1.72 = 134.16k22:20
mircea_popescueeenjoy.22:20
Birdmanthanks!22:20
Birdmannever clicked a gumbo before22:21
mircea_popescucurious what you get22:21
mircea_popescumaybe some double distillates lol. that'd fetch a pretty penny22:21
mircea_popescuor mebbe some gin or wine or such. also can't hurt.22:21
mircea_popescuor oyu know what ? tuber milk!22:22
Birdmanno doubt, plus i have 6 tries22:22
mircea_popescuactually there's a whole lot of gumbo bps22:22
mircea_popescuthart are needed22:22
mircea_popescuahh this is pretty nice. so !23:06
mircea_popescuAUCTION : selling 664 stone adzes, q 15048 ea. comes to 10 mn almost (within three nines!). opening bid... i dunno, 13mn say. eta 17:00 ART april 19th23:18
hanbot13 million here23:23
mircea_popescuand in other news, q73 ibs bundle q 135 ibs. go me.23:29
danielpbarronmircea_popescu, 13.65 on adzes23:56

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