#Eulora log for Monday, 2018-07-16

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Birdman2did my guy have a stroke? using cs crazy fast and can only use 4 threads in my small farming00:04
mircea_popescuBirdman2 how long have you been asleep lol.00:05
Birdman2lool00:05
Birdman2a long while apparently00:05
mircea_popesculotta things changed. do you recall /show top ?00:06
Birdman2no00:06
mircea_popescutry it.00:07
mircea_popescu!Qcalc 113.6/(7666 * 7.41)00:07
lobbesbotmircea_popescu: 0.0019998218468600:07
mircea_popescu!Qcalc 108.5/(5085 *10.67)00:08
lobbesbotmircea_popescu: 0.0019997438116200:08
mircea_popescuCHEAPER!!00:08
mircea_popescu!Qbid 298 113.6mn00:08
lobbesbotAUCTION # 298: 7666 Assorted Library Mites q741 Heard: 113.6mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-17 19:23:06 UTC (43 hours 14 mins)00:08
mircea_popescu!Qbid 297 108.5mn00:09
lobbesbotAUCTION # 297: 5085 Assorted Library Mites q1067 Heard: 108.5mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-17 19:20:33 UTC (43 hours 11 mins)00:09
Birdman2that is sick00:09
Mockyre: "moved" problem, I just looked through my logs from yesterday of about 18hrs of mining, i got it 5 times and in each of those cases, client sent a new and different position to server immediately after picking up a table which was too heavy, and server immediately responds with confirming the last good pos before the pickup. client seems to ignore this and sends standard pos update during /explore: server balks00:09
Mockyseems like a good lead to follow00:10
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (19h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505000:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (43h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74100:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (43h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106700:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---00:11
mircea_popescuMocky this sounds like it, actually.00:13
mircea_popescureason you took n hours to run into it is that you're not rich, gotta work your way to weight00:13
mircea_popescui can just unload so much stuff from storage to make me a shade under00:13
Mockyna, that's why i mine boulders, over weight the whole time00:13
mircea_popescuah00:13
mircea_popescustill sounds like a likely avenue.00:14
Mockything is, bot is calling for full stop on client before pickup and drop of table. seems like client needs firmer convincing to fully stop00:15
mircea_popescuprolly.00:15
Mockydiana_coman, re: earlier convo about client server position comms... i think i was mistaken to call the server messages 'ack's, more like corrections: only needed when server disagrees00:18
mircea_popescuquite.00:23
Birdman2these damn leathers, who can sell blueprints for 'the wheel'00:24
mircea_popescuthe wheel ?!00:25
Birdman2to move the heaps!00:25
mircea_popesculol.00:26
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (18h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505001:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (42h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74101:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (42h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106701:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---01:11
Birdman2mircea_popescu i have bunches of LH and BBB i want to sell, before i mix do you want me to keep to higher q (150q+) seperate from the lower?01:13
Birdman2that is, if you are looking to buy01:13
mircea_popescuprolly a good idea01:13
Mockypsclientdr.cpp line 233: // Ignore any updates to the main player...psForcePositionMessage handles that.01:29
Mockyyeah better ignore that shit, lol01:29
Mockyso then I check my logs for this forcePositionMessage, it's very rare, 2 or 3 times a day. but in every case it's the start of an arguement between client and server after client picks up something heavy and gets locked01:31
Mockyclient tries to move after locked, server sends forcePosition back to where it was when picked up, client seems to concede sending back a matching pos, but then sends 3 more movements trying to walk back to the original 'bad' position. this goes on for dozens of messages, client just wont fucking yield01:34
Mockyseems to go on, back and forth steadily, every 50-100ms until client drops heavy item, despite whatever else is going on01:37
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lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (17h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505002:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (41h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74102:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (41h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106702:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---02:11
Birdmanmircea_popescu: LH - 510 q196; 26979 q3; 4610 q6102:19
BirdmanBBB - 189 q682; 95642 q2502:19
Birdmanmucked up alot of that mixing02:20
Birdman!Qcalc (721*.03*26979+(721*1.96*510)+(721*.61*4610))02:21
lobbesbotBirdman: 3331791.4702:21
Birdman!Qcalc (721*.03*26979+(721*1.96*510)+(721*.61*4610))202:22
lobbesbotBirdman: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)02:22
Birdman!Qcalc (721*.03*26979+(721*1.96*510)+(721*.61*4610))*202:22
lobbesbotBirdman: 6663582.9402:22
Birdman!Qcalc (197*6.82*189+(197*.25*95624)*1.8)+(((721*.03*26979+(721*1.96*510)+(721*.61*4610))*2)02:24
lobbesbotBirdman: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)02:24
Birdman!Qcalc (197*6.82*189+(197*.25*95624)*1.8)02:25
lobbesbotBirdman: 8730996.6602:25
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lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (16h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505003:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (40h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74103:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (40h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106703:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---03:11
mircea_popescuMocky nice finding it!03:55
mircea_popescuwhodda thunk it, imbeciles made a client that behaves exactly like a stupid brat. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-26#1829964 totally not related to any of this nevertheless, huh.03:57
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Birdmandiana_coman do you have any cs for sale04:04
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (15h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505004:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (39h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74104:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (39h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106704:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---04:11
Birdmanalso how do i address Merchant? /tell finds him offline04:13
mircea_popescuBirdman use last name iirc04:14
Birdmanah thanks04:15
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (14h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505005:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (38h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74105:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (38h9) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106705:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---05:11
diana_comanMocky, bot got stuck (a few minutes after I left it, ofc) after 17 attempts, apparently because table was too far away to take stuff from it and it didn't know what to do06:18
diana_comanI have "You are too far away to take items from that" in the main window06:18
diana_comanand Taking output... 30 x Shiny Rock q64 30x Shiny Rock table[6] --> inventory[90]06:19
diana_comanand it basically died there, probably waiting for a different message06:19
mircea_popescumocky is a bad person.06:20
diana_comanthat find on client behaviour is planeshit-characteristic really06:27
mircea_popescui'm just having a fun!06:28
diana_comanthe whole observed behaviour makes sense then: client insists on "still moving a bit, it's just a bit", server doesn't have anything to do with it and just tells the idiot back from time to time06:29
diana_comanheh, welcome back to the game at any rate06:29
diana_comanze pops of mine were on lapidary fwiw06:30
mircea_popescunice.06:32
diana_comanMocky, crash: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/B0SEX/?raw=true06:35
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (12h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505007:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (36h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74107:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (36h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106707:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---07:11
mircea_popescub0 sex crash07:19
diana_coman118 explores this time, table is full08:01
diana_comananyway better than the mini-runs that would last about 60 explores08:01
diana_comanbut it seems there is still quite some work to do before it can be left to explore 24 hours or more08:05
mircea_popescuseems he's getting there, yeah08:06
mircea_popescui mean, this time there was a totally different error preventing 100% any kind of mining for me :D08:06
diana_comanahaha, why u so easily preventable :P08:09
mircea_popescuikr.08:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (11h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505008:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (35h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74108:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (35h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106708:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 322.1mn total bids ---08:11
mircea_popescu!Qcalc 14142 * 174.32 * 1008:13
lobbesbotmircea_popescu: 24652334.408:13
mircea_popescu!QAuction 36mn 72 14142 CLD q1743208:14
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 14142 CLD q17432 Opening: 36mn coppers Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (72 hours)08:14
mircea_popescudiana_coman btw left a comment on blog08:17
mircea_popescuwhich i've been re-reading, such great gems. http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/08:27
diana_comanesthlos's project really is quite useful in unexpected ways, huh08:43
mircea_popescuyup!08:44
diana_coman!Qbid 299 36m09:04
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 36mn from diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (71 hours 10 mins)09:04
diana_comanlobbes, does autobid place the initial bid as well if set? or do I always need to place the initial bid manually?09:04
diana_comancongrats danielpbarron on the cld-fuelled pops09:05
mircea_popescuo wow check him out. nice going.09:06
mircea_popescuand look at that, hanbot is now #1 for the month09:06
diana_comano.O what pop was that even, I don't recall09:08
diana_comanthe ss?09:08
diana_comanapparently mockybot really has about ~120 explores autonomy09:09
diana_comanon the bright side, I still got ~6k sr out of it so not that bad for starters09:09
mircea_popescutru.09:10
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (10h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505009:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=36mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (71h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743209:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (34h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74109:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (34h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106709:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 358.1mn total bids ---09:11
danielpbarron!Qbid 299 37mn09:20
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 37mn from danielpbarron overbidding diana_coman Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (70 hours 54 mins)09:20
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299: AUTO-BID Heard: 40.333mn from danielpbarron overbidding danielpbarron and 1 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (70 hours 54 mins)09:20
diana_comanMocky, btw is it possible to have the mixing (same, on bands of q) separate as well? i.e. as command such as /bot mix ?09:26
mircea_popescuya good idea.09:34
diana_coman!QAuction 1m 48 14657 SR q7209:36
lobbesbotAUCTION # 300 STARTED by diana_coman: 14657 SR q72 Opening: 1m coppers Ending: 2018-07-18 09:36:26 UTC (48 hours)09:36
diana_coman!QAuction 1.3m 48 18892 F q6509:47
lobbesbotAUCTION # 301 STARTED by diana_coman: 18892 F q65 Opening: 1.3m coppers Ending: 2018-07-18 09:47:25 UTC (48 hours)09:47
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (47h35) >>> 18892 F q6510:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (9h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505010:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (47h24) >>> 14657 SR q7210:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=40.333mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (70h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743210:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (33h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74110:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (33h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106710:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 362.433mn total bids ---10:11
diana_comanMocky, bot now got stuck but it doesn't report any error; it took stuff from claim, it made 2 moves and...that's it; last in main window "You finished working" ; last in bot window: "1x Nondescript Tubers inventory[62] --> table[8]; last in console: queueing move to new slot: inv:62 x1 --> tab:10:29
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (46h35) >>> 18892 F q6511:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (8h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505011:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (46h24) >>> 14657 SR q7211:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=40.333mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (69h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743211:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (32h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74111:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (32h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106711:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 362.433mn total bids ---11:11
diana_coman!Qbid 299 40.5m12:09
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299: 14142 CLD q17432 Heard: 40.5mn from diana_coman overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (68 hours 5 mins)12:09
lobbesbotAUCTION # 299: AUTO-BID Heard: 48.5mn from diana_coman overbidding diana_coman and 1 other auto-bid(s) Ending: 2018-07-19 08:14:43 UTC (68 hours 5 mins)12:09
diana_comanlobbes, it seems that autobid does *not* get triggered unless I manually bid first; not even at the time when it prints the list of active auctions again; wouldn't it make more sense if it actually triggered as soon as one set it?12:10
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (45h35) >>> 18892 F q6512:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (7h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505012:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (45h24) >>> 14657 SR q7212:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (68h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743212:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (31h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74112:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (31h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106712:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---12:11
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Mockydiana_coman, re: stuck after "too far away to take items from that" , i think I'll need more error handling for those transfers13:51
Mockymircea_popescu, bad person? I don't think I like your attitude young man13:52
diana_comanMocky, it might be overall a bit too brittle, see later on the issue where it just hung up apparently waiting for something after requesting a move to table13:59
diana_comanfwiw I kept trying it throughout today but it seems only to have gotten worse i.e. the tool wasting is very frequent and costly14:00
Mockyyeah the new stuff I just put in for stacking transfers seems particularly brittle14:02
Mockytool wasting with the "moved" problem?14:02
diana_comanprecisely, yes14:02
Mockyre: separate command for mixing, it should work on just the targeted table, not inv, and restack everything?14:06
diana_comanMocky, it can work on inv only most convenient (since you can always do a take all and there are more slots in inv); but at any rate, even if it works on table only or on table and inv it's still fine, the important part is to have it so one can mix stuff automatically outside of a mining run14:08
diana_comanMocky, oh, and probably best with some way of specifying *what* item to restack14:08
Mockyright ok14:08
diana_comanI suppose that would be a pro table so you don't have to specify, hm14:08
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (43h35) >>> 18892 F q6514:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (5h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505014:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (43h24) >>> 14657 SR q7214:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (66h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743214:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (29h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74114:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (29h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106714:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---14:11
mircea_popescudiana_coman his code style isn't even that terrible, is it ? and improving rapidly, at that.15:21
mircea_popescuhey Mocky what do you do for a day job ?15:24
MockyI code java, mainly backend web application stuff, some front end web.15:26
mircea_popescuwhat would you need to quit that dumb shit and dedicate yourself full time to making eulora client that doesn't suck ass ?15:27
mircea_popescu(it's ok, you don't have to answer this very minute. you got a day or most of one or something.)15:30
Mockythat's a good question. im thinking about it15:30
mircea_popescutoo quick for ya!!!15:30
mircea_popescuMocky you know the babu the pakistani from seinfeld ? VERY BADMAN!15:31
Mockyvery very bad man!15:32
mircea_popesculol15:33
diana_coman<mircea_popescu> diana_coman his code style isn't even that terrible, is it ? and improving rapidly, at that. -> quite so, yes!15:33
Mockymircea_popescu, I would need 7500 usd / month or similar.16:05
mircea_popescuMocky i'd have thought java websiting is more in the 60k a year ~before tax~ range ?16:06
Mockynot when you're the lead dev with 20 years experience16:08
mircea_popescuwell when you're the lead dev with 20 years experience one can't even talk salary with you, they're stuck saying yes.16:09
mircea_popescubut tell me, ever thought of going into business for yourself ?16:10
Mockyevery day16:10
mircea_popesculet's approach it that way. what'd you need to make eulora client writing a business ?16:11
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (41h35) >>> 18892 F q6516:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (3h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505016:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (41h24) >>> 14657 SR q7216:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (64h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743216:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (27h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74116:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (27h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106716:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---16:11
diana_comanMocky, you might want to follow the discussion in #trilema as it touches on intended paradigm re clients16:11
mircea_popescui imagine he's following, lol.16:12
diana_comanjust-in-case!16:12
Mockynot caught up yet since this morning16:12
diana_comanit's live!16:12
mircea_popesculol16:13
mircea_popescuit comes alive at night... and fucks your wife!!116:13
mircea_popescudiana_coman i tell you, i looked at some pic of his intel fished out, he looked like 25. i've nfi how he's been lead deving since diapers or what!16:14
Mockymy black don't crack16:14
mircea_popesculol.16:15
diana_comaneven in the pictures I saw on his blog, he didn't look that old; and yeah, 20 years lead dev exp means Mocky's got to be older than me? o.O16:16
mircea_popescuhm. hey Mocky, is it 20 or is it more "rounded to the closest 20" like they do in cvs ?16:17
diana_comanand is it 20 yrs experience being lead dev or 20 years experience since first touched keyboard or what?16:18
mircea_popesculol. diana_coman looky, it's no shame being young! POTENTIAL!16:18
Mockythe 20 years figure is rounded...16:19
Mockydown16:19
diana_comancertainly no shame!16:19
mircea_popescuhahaha16:19
Mockylead dev experience is only 17 years16:20
mircea_popescuMocky do you particularly like teh cpw ?16:20
Mockycpw?16:21
mircea_popescucurrent place of work.16:21
mircea_popescui dunno, and don't misunderstand me as trying to tell you your business ; but to my meagre faculties, if you've spent 17 years making 7k a month there's no way in hell you ~need~ anything. so it's more in the vein of "i need you buncha putative clowns make it reliably plain to me that you aren't a buncha clowns."16:22
Mockyi like the folx i work with, I don't enjoy the work and would be happy to leave. im not trying to bring my personal life out, but raised 7 kids to adulthood, and currently going thru divorce so that's the way in hell, lol16:23
mircea_popescuso bring the folx you work with over.16:24
mircea_popescuand i don't mean to be... cruel, let's say, but : bitcoin you get is bitcoin you get. unlike the devil's 7500 leaves a month, there's nobody anywhere going to randomly decide to take half of it back to the government later on.16:25
Mockyi like em good enuf but not that good, lol16:26
Mockyi hear that, and agree16:26
mircea_popescuanyway, as they say this matter shall require more thinking.16:27
Mockybut my life decisions put me in a place today where I do need things16:28
Mockyi'm getting myself out of that, but not out yet16:28
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (40h35) >>> 18892 F q6517:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (2h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505017:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (40h24) >>> 14657 SR q7217:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (63h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743217:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (26h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74117:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (26h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106717:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---17:11
diana_comanafter actually looking at Mocky's linked in page it would seem for all I can tell that he actually IS older than me!17:27
mircea_popescueveryone's older than you. this is a discovery ?17:28
diana_comanmircea_popescu, ahaha; it is!17:28
mircea_popescumazel tov.17:29
Mockyi was teaching java for sun microsystems on this day in 1998, shit, i learned java before there was a single book published on java17:29
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lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (39h35) >>> 18892 F q6518:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (1h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505018:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (39h24) >>> 14657 SR q7218:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (62h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743218:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (25h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74118:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (25h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106718:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---18:11
Mockyoh shit, linkedin. I forgot i had a profile on there. and looky there's hella mocky's on there now. ftr i was the first. also that pic is from 2004 lol18:16
diana_comanMocky, it's ok, I don't even recall what is on my profile there, lol18:16
lobbeshttp://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t23:24:44 << This is indeed a bug. I think I know the issue too. Once the new auctionbot is out (based off of logbot proper) I am going to redo the entire eulora logs to be more like ben_vulpes' various logotrons (i.e. fed from logbot instead of from znc logs). This bug will be squashed in the process18:46
lobbesbotLogged on 2018-07-15 23:24:44: <mircea_popescu> lobbesbot specifically what i mean is , http://logs.minigame.biz/search/?q=SOLD+to doesnt' show http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-15.log.html#t06:30:3818:46
lobbeshttp://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-16.log.html#t12:10:18 << agreed. The autobid feature is also due for a recode as, imo, I did a poor job designing the thing. A proper autobidder is also on my list after Auctionbot 2.0 is out18:58
lobbesbotLogged on 2018-07-16 12:10:18: <diana_coman> lobbes, it seems that autobid does *not* get triggered unless I manually bid first; not even at the time when it prints the list of active auctions again; wouldn't it make more sense if it actually triggered as soon as one set it?18:58
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (38h35) >>> 18892 F q6519:11
lobbesbotA#296 O=100mn HB=100mn E=07-16 19:43:48 (0h32) >>> 1 VSS q1505019:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (38h24) >>> 14657 SR q7219:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (61h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743219:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (24h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74119:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (24h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106719:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 370.6mn total bids ---19:11
lobbesbotAUCTION # 296 has ENDED: 1 VSS q15050 SOLD to hanbot for 100mn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu19:44
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:47:25 (37h35) >>> 18892 F q6520:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=No bids E=07-18 09:36:26 (37h24) >>> 14657 SR q7220:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (60h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743220:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (23h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74120:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (23h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106720:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 270.6mn total bids ---20:11
mircea_popescu!Qcalc 14657*.72*7922:46
lobbesbotmircea_popescu: 833690.1622:46
mircea_popescu!Qbid 301 1.3mn22:46
lobbesbotAUCTION # 301: 18892 F q65 Heard: 1.3mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-18 09:47:25 UTC (35 hours 1 mins)22:46
mircea_popescu!Qbid 300 1mn22:46
lobbesbotAUCTION # 300: 14657 SR q72 Heard: 1mn from mircea_popescu Ending: 2018-07-18 09:36:26 UTC (34 hours 50 mins)22:46
lobbesbotA#301 O=1.3mn HB=1.3mn E=07-18 09:47:25 (34h35) >>> 18892 F q6523:11
lobbesbotA#300 O=1mn HB=1mn E=07-18 09:36:26 (34h24) >>> 14657 SR q7223:11
lobbesbotA#299 O=36mn HB=48.5mn E=07-19 08:14:43 (57h3) >>> 14142 CLD q1743223:11
lobbesbotA#298 O=113.6mn HB=113.6mn E=07-17 19:23:06 (20h11) >>> 7666 Assorted Library Mites q74123:11
lobbesbotA#297 O=108.5mn HB=108.5mn E=07-17 19:20:33 (20h8) >>> 5085 Assorted Library Mites q106723:11
lobbesbot--- end of auction list, 272.9mn total bids ---23:11
Mockymircea_popescu, the number i gave earlier was wrong, that would be ~before tax~ number to be salaryman. taxes aside the number would 6300 for salaryman. but my salaryman days are numbered, i don't need the comfort and security and I'm going to be starting my own thing soon one way or another. so in terms of what would i need to to make eulora client writing my business, are you asking me what would I be willing to23:52
Mockylive on if I drop the salary expectation and replace it with expectation of building a business?23:52
mircea_popescui guess so.23:59

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